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Issue 237340043: Doc: avoid implicit \relative; issue 4371

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Created:
8 years, 11 months ago by Keith
Modified:
8 years, 10 months ago
Reviewers:
dak, Trevor Daniels
CC:
lilypond-devel_gnu.org
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Description

Docs: stop using the hidden implicit \relative; issue 4371 Remove the lilypond-book feature of 'relative=n' in conjunctin with 'verbatim', so that examples cut-and-paste into user scores, and so that we show wiser use of relative.

Patch Set 1 #

Patch Set 2 : just the Learning Manual done so far #

Total comments: 1

Patch Set 3 : reveal why c' is middle C #

Patch Set 4 : notation/simultaneous.itely is interesting #

Patch Set 5 : convert-ly to prefer \relative {..} #

Patch Set 6 : finished all docs #

Patch Set 7 : error corrections #

Total comments: 24

Patch Set 8 : formatting #

Patch Set 9 : finish all translations #

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Messages

Total messages: 13
Trevor Daniels
I'm not opposed to the change to explicit \relative; it avoids having to explain why ...
8 years, 11 months ago (2015-05-17 21:54:07 UTC) #1
Keith
On 2015/05/17 21:54:07, Trevor Daniels wrote: > But I think if are to > make ...
8 years, 11 months ago (2015-05-18 02:02:33 UTC) #2
Keith
finished all docs
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-21 23:25:49 UTC) #3
Keith
error corrections
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-22 00:33:58 UTC) #4
Keith
I started this with the belief that relative octave notation is easier to write (for ...
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-22 04:40:21 UTC) #5
Trevor Daniels
I'm generally happy with this, but I've made quite a few nit-picking comments. I think ...
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-22 11:04:45 UTC) #6
dak
https://codereview.appspot.com/237340043/diff/110001/Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely File Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/237340043/diff/110001/Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely#newcode330 Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely:330: b c } On 2015/06/22 11:04:44, Trevor Daniels wrote: ...
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-22 11:24:30 UTC) #7
Keith
https://codereview.appspot.com/237340043/diff/110001/Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely File Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/237340043/diff/110001/Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely#newcode330 Documentation/learning/tweaks.itely:330: b c } On 2015/06/22 11:04:44, Trevor Daniels wrote: ...
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-22 15:30:19 UTC) #8
Keith
formatting
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-23 06:20:24 UTC) #9
Trevor Daniels
LGTM Thanks Keith
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-25 10:14:53 UTC) #10
Keith
apply patch to translations
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-06-28 05:32:30 UTC) #11
Keith
finish all translations
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-07-06 06:28:43 UTC) #12
Keith
8 years, 10 months ago (2015-07-06 06:44:35 UTC) #13
The part of notation.pdf before the tables grows from 613 to 622 pages, 2%, even
with the closing }s always on their own line.

https://codereview.appspot.com/237340043/diff/110001/Documentation/learning/c...
File Documentation/learning/common-notation.itely (right):

https://codereview.appspot.com/237340043/diff/110001/Documentation/learning/c...
Documentation/learning/common-notation.itely:243: \key aes \major
On 2015/06/22 11:04:44, Trevor Daniels wrote:
> I wonder if it might be preferable to place the \key outside the \relative? 

I thought it better to keep the \key near the notes here, because we show
appropriate placement of the \relative around inner structures in files like
/notation/staff.itely
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