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11 years ago by Trevor Daniels Modified:
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DescriptionDoc: rename section in LM (3280)
In the LM, the word "tweaks" is used both generically, meaning
"modifying LilyPond's action", and specifically to refer to the
\tweak command. The old section heading used the word in the former
sense, but this was confusing as the section dealt exclusively
with \override commands.
Patch Set 1 #Patch Set 2 : Use a generic name #
MessagesTotal messages: 11
I think it would be nicer if we could find a word that wasn't a command word ("modifications"? "adjustments" ? "customizations"?) but I agree that in this case "override" is better than "tweak".
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On 2013/04/11 22:37:41, Graham Percival wrote: > I think it would be nicer if we could find a word that wasn't a command word > ("modifications"? "adjustments" ? "customizations"?) but I agree that in this > case "override" is better than "tweak". Yes, we need a word or phrase that can be used to replace tweaks and tweaking in all the places where they are used generically, leaving tweaks and tweaking to refer to the specific use of \tweak as a command. Earlier, when \tweak as a comand was rarely used, no confusion arose, but now that \tweak is more useful and is appearing more frequently in replies and documentation I think the time has come to make the change. Although long, I think "fine-tuning the layout" captures the generic meaning of tweaking quite well, and once introduced it could be shortened to just "fine-tuning". The noun could be "fine-tuning adjustments." So this section could entitled "Using variables for fine-tuning" or "Using variables for fine-tuning the layout". The main difficulty with this, and the reason why I'm looking for further comment, is that many tweaks and overrides are rather more than _fine_-tuning, but I think I could live with this. Trevor
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On 2013/04/12 09:31:17, Trevor Daniels wrote: > On 2013/04/11 22:37:41, Graham Percival wrote: > > I think it would be nicer if we could find a word that wasn't a command word > > ("modifications"? "adjustments" ? "customizations"?) but I agree that in > this > > case "override" is better than "tweak". > > Yes, we need a word or phrase that can be used to replace > tweaks and tweaking in all the places where they are used > generically, leaving tweaks and tweaking to refer to the > specific use of \tweak as a command. Earlier, when \tweak > as a comand was rarely used, no confusion arose, but now that > \tweak is more useful and is appearing more frequently in > replies and documentation I think the time has come to make > the change. Although long, I think "fine-tuning the layout" > captures the generic meaning of tweaking quite well, and once > introduced it could be shortened to just "fine-tuning". The > noun could be "fine-tuning adjustments." > > So this section could entitled "Using variables for fine-tuning" > or "Using variables for fine-tuning the layout". > > The main difficulty with this, and the reason why I'm looking > for further comment, is that many tweaks and overrides are rather > more than _fine_-tuning, but I think I could live with this. It's not really "fine-tuning", and "tuning" alone has strange connotations. I think "retouching" is pretty much on spot. Asking the thesaurus does not really deliver anything more convincing: From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]: 40 Moby Thesaurus words for "retouch": adjust, adulterate, brighten up, brush up, cook, correct, doctor, fake, finish, fix, freshen, furbish, furbish up, improve, juggle, load, manipulate, pack, plant, polish, polish up, recondition, refresh, renovate, repair, restore, revive, rig, rub up, salt, shine, sophisticate, spruce, spruce up, stack, tamper with, tone up, touch up, vamp, vamp up
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----- Original Message ----- From: <dak@gnu.org> To: <tdanielsmusic@googlemail.com>; <graham@percival-music.ca> Cc: <reply@codereview-hr.appspotmail.com>; <lilypond-devel@gnu.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Doc: rename section in LM (3280) (issue 8575044) > On 2013/04/12 09:31:17, Trevor Daniels wrote: >> On 2013/04/11 22:37:41, Graham Percival wrote: >> > I think it would be nicer if we could find a word that wasn't a > command word >> > ("modifications"? "adjustments" ? "customizations"?) but I agree > that in >> this >> > case "override" is better than "tweak". > >> Yes, we need a word or phrase that can be used to replace >> tweaks and tweaking in all the places where they are used >> generically, leaving tweaks and tweaking to refer to the >> specific use of \tweak as a command. Earlier, when \tweak >> as a comand was rarely used, no confusion arose, but now that >> \tweak is more useful and is appearing more frequently in >> replies and documentation I think the time has come to make >> the change. Although long, I think "fine-tuning the layout" >> captures the generic meaning of tweaking quite well, and once >> introduced it could be shortened to just "fine-tuning". The >> noun could be "fine-tuning adjustments." > >> So this section could entitled "Using variables for fine-tuning" >> or "Using variables for fine-tuning the layout". > >> The main difficulty with this, and the reason why I'm looking >> for further comment, is that many tweaks and overrides are rather >> more than _fine_-tuning, but I think I could live with this. > > It's not really "fine-tuning", and "tuning" alone has strange > connotations. > > I think "retouching" is pretty much on spot. Asking the thesaurus does > not really deliver anything more convincing: Sorry - I don't agree. In native English, retouching has a strong connotation of dabbing something like paint over another patch of paint to correct something that doesn't look right. PhotoShop-type programs are known for their retouching ability. In contract, fine-tuning is taking something that's fairly OK as it is and making it better - exactly what we've considered to be a tweak. IMO fine-tuning is a perfectly acceptable description - retouching would not work. The tuning/tweak stuff potentially arises from a motoring connotation - "Demon Tweeks" (commercial spelling) were well known for selling car tuning parts. -- Phil Holmes
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On 2013/04/12 10:26:46, mail_philholmes.net wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mailto:dak@gnu.org> > > I think "retouching" is pretty much on spot. Asking the thesaurus does > > not really deliver anything more convincing: > > > Sorry - I don't agree. In native English, retouching has a strong > connotation of dabbing something like paint over another patch of > paint to correct something that doesn't look right. And indeed, the very first actual code example in the "tweaks" section changes notehead colours to green and red. > PhotoShop-type programs are known for their retouching ability. In > contract, fine-tuning is taking something that's fairly OK as it is > and making it better - exactly what we've considered to be a tweak. > IMO fine-tuning is a perfectly acceptable description - retouching > would not work. How is coloring noteheads green and red "fine-tuning"? I suspect you are objecting to the naming change without looking at the actual contents of the section, just judging from its old name or your memory. The section isn't about fine-tuning (though it is helpful when fine-tuning is your goal). Indeed, since we don't want to rewrite the section all the time just because LilyPond keeps getting better, the examples in this section tend _not_ to be fine-tuning but rather pretty thorough changes. Changes that won't get redundant when LilyPond gets better. There _has_ been more documentation of fine-tuning changes in historic times but many of them got thrown out eventually because they stopped having an effect or made things worse as LilyPond got better out of the box.
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For me "adjustments" would be probably best. Adjustments can be big or small, and - as far as i understand this word - can mean both adjusting something that's wrong so that it'll be correct, and changing something according to one's arbitrary tastes. best, Janek
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On 2013/04/12 11:36:39, janek wrote: > For me "adjustments" would be probably best. Adjustments can be big or small, > and - as far as i understand this word - can mean both adjusting something > that's wrong so that it'll be correct, and changing something according to one's > arbitrary tastes. I'm inclined to agree, although maybe "manual adjustments" and "manually adjusting" might be more suitable in certain contexts. Unless there are more comments I'll go with this. Trevor
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Use a generic name
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On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:36:40AM +0000, janek.lilypond@gmail.com wrote: > For me "adjustments" would be probably best. Adjustments can be big or > small, and - as far as i understand this word - can mean both adjusting > something that's wrong so that it'll be correct, and changing something > according to one's arbitrary tastes. Yes. I like "adjustments" for this purpose. - Graham
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